Wednesday, December 06, 2006

Interrupted Prayers

DEARBORN -- Fitness USA, a gym chain, is investigating an alleged civil rights violation involving a local Muslim woman who says her afternoon prayer was interrupted by a fellow patron, and that her complaint to management about the situation was rejected.
"The manager told me, 'You have to respect her (the patron), but she does not have to respect your God,' " said Wardeh Sultan of Dearborn. "I've had my membership for seven or eight years, and I've never had a problem with praying there.

Born in Jordan, of Palestinian descent, Sultan arrived in Detroit 17 years ago, before moving to Dearborn. She is an American citizen.
Sultan said she came to the United States to secure her freedom and to avoid intolerance.
"We're here in the great United States and for this happening, it truly breaks my heart," she said. "You know, things are starting to change backwards, instead of frontward. We need to keep this United States, our country, up on our shoulders. We don't want it to go down."
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061205/LIFESTYLE04/612050368

Ms. Sultan needs to remember one of the basics that makes this country great... freedom of speech, which includes the freedom to be rude. And, it sounds as if Sultan's tolerance is a one-way street.

Muslims in this country walk around like they own the place... because they're beginning to think they do... and we know they think that they should. There is a "racist-like" element in their attitude towards their fellow Americans. They don't like us. They want us to adapt to them and be subservient to their religious needs and preferences.

Giving in to their nonsense is the first step down a road that we don't want to travel. It's a road known very well in Europe.

We each victory of Jihad in the world, and each concession made in the U.S. - the American Muslims' audacity and brazenness will increase.

So bring out the cartoons, interrupt the prayers, and throw Imam from the plane. We will not be intimidated. Our laws will not be infected with Sharia. We will not be colonized.
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18 comments:

Anonymous said...

A few months ago I posted about Fitness USA needing to change some of their Michigan location schedules to accommodate women on some days and men on other days so they couldn't see each other in something less than a bed sheet on the elliptical. Now we see again Fitness USA falling to whims of the giant of morality, CAIR.

Also, isn't this prayer thing getting in the way of a lot of activities? Flying, exercising and school. What's next I wonder?

12/06/2006 9:02 AM
Malott said...

They're just "pushing the envelope," and the rest of us would be wise to push back.

12/06/2006 10:07 AM
Anonymous said...

I agree, we must push back if we have any chance of retaining our culture, values and way of life.

Great post Chris.

12/06/2006 10:32 AM
Anonymous said...

Some bitch complains when her prayers are interrupted = destruction of society.

Hyperbole, much?

12/06/2006 9:22 PM
paw said...

Malott,

Do you know many Muslims? I'm wondering where you see a "racist-like" tendency, and those other negative qualities. Is this another Malkin "fact"?

I worked closely with 3 Pakistani men for 3 years, and I've known a good deal more Muslims going back to the late 80's. I knew their families and some of their friends. These guys were very hard working, polite, talented, productive, and good men. They are on the path to US citizenship and we'll be the better for having them. I can't fit what you're saying with what I've experienced.

12/07/2006 12:01 AM
Anonymous said...

Paw,

I can't fit what you're saying with what I've experienced.

I thought the same thing when I read this post.

12/07/2006 1:06 AM
Malott said...

PAW,

I can't fit your story of the 3 Pakistanis with the words and actions of CAIR, or the ridiculous investigation civil rights violations in Dearborn over some idiot being rude.

I expect immigrants to adapt to the American culture. I have no sympathy for Muslims who come here and start whining and making demands - which I believe stems from a religious arrogance - and yes, a "racist-like" manifestation of feelings of religious superiority. If "religist" was a word, I would have used it, but I had to go with "racist-like."

Your story about the 3 Pakistanis is very touching and warm. But telling pretty stories doesn't change the facts in Dearborn or the actions of CAIR.

On November 29th I posted "The New Britain." I do not want my country to follow suit.

Thanks for your thoughtful comments.

12/07/2006 5:17 AM
Anonymous said...

Paw and Jacob,
Maybe you should go back and read the post again, one word at a time. Let it seep into your brain come back and opine once you've gathered all the facts. People have the right to be rude in this country. Didn't the muslim woman know it would be prayer time when she left for the gym? Come on guys you know this is just more of the same victim mentality, creating an environment where the muslim will be offended. Thus the civil liberties violations.

Janice over at Nuggets of News posted a while ago where Fitness USA had a run in with CAIR before.

12/07/2006 6:06 AM
Anonymous said...

I think Malott is the racist.

12/07/2006 7:30 AM
Anonymous said...

From a woman suing because she was interrupted in her (probably) silent religious observation you conclude that the law is being "colonised by the Sharia".

I wonder, what did you post the last time a Christian group tried to have the Ten Commandments posted in a court of Law? Or do your double-standards not cover the attempts by your own religion to colonise the law? A link will do, thanks

That is the true test to determine if Shalott is in the right or is just a disgusting hypocrite - not how tyou react to other's pushing the envelope, but how you react to your own pushing.

12/07/2006 1:44 PM
paw said...

JT,

"...come back and opine once you've gathered all the facts."

I was fishing these waters for more facts, actually. I figure this is one of the crowds that would have facts, if any exist.

For my part, I'm not arguing fact, I'm explaining my belief which I base upon experience and observation, and I tried to extablish something of a basis for that belief. Malott is arguing as if there is some logical, factual connection between the lawsuit and the destruction of the American Way Of Life. I don't see that. I don't want to be wrong on a matter of such importance.

12/07/2006 2:45 PM
paw said...

Malott,

"Your story about the 3 Pakistanis is very touching and warm..."

Are you dismissing me as a feel-good lightweight puff-cake? Don't do that.

12/07/2006 2:51 PM
Malott said...

PAW,

I would never be so foolish as to dismiss you as a puff-cake.

Your story of the 3P's has merit, but anecdotal arguments carry only so much weight when compared to the facts - the actions of CARE, and the false claim of civil rights abuses.

12/07/2006 3:01 PM
Anonymous said...

Malott, I (and many others) are waiting for your response to Anon's comment.

12/07/2006 10:21 PM
Malott said...

Anonymous,

I didn't say our laws were being colonized.

Some immigrants go to a new country because they love the people and the culture, and they want themselves and their progeny to be a part of it.

Others immigrate to a new country even though they have hostile feelings, because they want to take advantage of economic opportunities. They do not wish to adapt or assimilate. They form colonies of foreigners - little foreign towns that are as foreign as their embassies. This attitude shows up in "second generations" in these people - their children are as set apart as their parents.

I believe many American-Muslims fall into this second category.

CAIR seeks to change our law - in that want special rights. They want rights that allow for their differences with American law. They do not wish to adapt.

The "interrupted prayer lady" is just one example of this push for special rights.

12/08/2006 5:04 AM
Anonymous said...

Jacob, I assume you are looking for a response to anonymous' question: "I wonder, what did you post the last time a Christian group tried to have the Ten Commandments posted in a court of Law?"

I would suspect that it is hard for Malott (or anyone) to answer that question since it is not based in any sense of reality. The Ten Commandments issue is not one of Christian groups trying to get them posted in courts of law. It is an issue of secular groups trying to get them removed from courts of law. In other words, Christians aren't trying to "colonise the law" as anonymous alleges. Our Founding Fathers already did that for us. Rather, it is our friends on the left, like anonymous, who are attempting to sandblast and haul away monuments that in any way reference our Judeo-Christian heritage and which, in some cases, have been a part of our legal system and/or culture for hundreds of years. So who exactly is it that is doing the "colonizing" with their particular view of things?

And anonymous, let me save you the trouble of responding and get right to the crux of what you will likely allege: "Shanonymous2 has double-standards and is a disgusting hypocrite."

Hope that helps.

12/08/2006 8:48 AM
Malott said...

ah... anonymous 2...
Brilliant as usual.

Who is that masked man?

12/08/2006 10:17 AM
Anonymous said...

Anon2,

The "Pot, Meet Kettle" distinction is an accurate one in this case, since both you and Malott scream bloody murder when some woman wants to pray in a gym but sit and watch their independent arms of government be saddled with your own religion.

I think your problem is aimed at Muslims specifically. It's not about the fear of becoming a dictatorial theocracy, it's about the fear of having to share the same space with people who think differently to you.

PS. I'm loving the comments thread on FSTDT Malott. You're getting absolutely hammered.

12/08/2006 6:52 PM

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