Kerry's View of the Military
While stumping for local Dems in California Kerry stated,
"You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
The National Commander of The American Legion called on Sen. John Kerry to apologize for suggesting that American troops in Iraq are uneducated.
"As a constituent of Senator Kerry's I am disappointed. As leader of The American Legion, I am outraged," said National Commander Paul A. Morin. "A generation ago, Sen. Kerry slandered his comrades in Vietnam by saying that they were rapists and murderers. It wasn't true then and his warped view of today's heroes isn't true now."
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/31/204-10312006.html
"I believe Sen. Kerry owes an apology to many thousands of Americans serving in Iraq, who answered their country's call," said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., campaigning in Indiana.
A Democratic congressman told ABC News Tuesday, "I guess Kerry wasn't content blowing 2004, now he wants to blow 2006, too."
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2619383&page=2
Kerry does blow.
But like other Democrats - among them a former president - Kerry loathes the military. He believes the military is for losers. The military is for those who have no other options. Kerry trashed our soldiers when he came back from Vietnam, and he is still trashing them today.
That's why he represents the Democrat Party so well.
Update: "I called them Smart before I called them Stupid." John Kerry
Hat tip to http://sacredscoop.com/?p=493
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I don't want to defend a US politician here, but I think he meant that Bush was the one figuratively stuck in Iraq.
A poor choice of words? Absolutely.
"You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
Jacob, what part of his quote makes you think he was talking about Bush?
If he was talking about Bush stuck in Iraq, what does that have to do with education, studying hard and doing homework?
Whether or not he was talking about Bush or a soldier getting stuck in Iraq, Kerry was without doubt calling our troops stupid and uneducated.
Jacob,
If Kerry was referring to Bush being stuck in Iraq because he didn't study enough, keep in mind that Bush got better grades at Yale than Kerry did.
Kerry shoved his foot in his mouth, and now he's refusing to pull it out. And the military is outraged. Even if the military really is stupid, they're at least smart enough to know when they've been denigrated.
Jacob,
I believe that Kerry's view of war, as with most Dems, is based on memories of Vietnam.
His supposed "quip gone awry" reflects this - in that back in the 60's, if you didn't go to college and make good grades, you were drafted into the service.
The Dems still see our servicemen as poor dumb-butts who aren't smart or clever enough to do anything else.
Why else would these young people choose to serve their country?
And Jacob,
AICS and Skyepuppy nail Kerry's attempt at damage control. Kerry may want to redirect his comments toward Bush now - but no matter what he says, his statement reflects on our troops - and his own disregard for their honorable sevice.
And it's not as if there isn't a history - a lifelong pattern here, on Kerry's part.
John Kerry was scheduled to appear in front of a Veterans group tomorrow, according to Fox TV his events have now been canceled. He doesn't even have the courage to face a Veteran's organization, but he can stand at a California college and smear our troops in Iraq yet once, again - just as he did when he called them terrorists.
It seems Jacob has a John Kerry issue...foot in mouth.
It seeems everyone slapped Jacob down before I got here, darn it.
My work here is done, carry on....
Slapped down? I wouldn't say that exactly.
I don't really care a whole lot about John Kerry. He probably is a bigger idiot than Bush... I'm not disputing that.
I just wanted to offer the possibility that his comments were aimed at the President (who is fair game for such criticism, I believe) and not the military (who deserve a bit of respect for getting shot at every day). You can understand that this was not an unreasonable proposition to make.
If he was talking about Bush stuck in Iraq, what does that have to do with education, studying hard and doing homework?
Well see, Bush has a bit of a reputation for being - how should I put this - stupid.
But with that said, Kerry isn't much better either.
I read your comments over at Liberal Disp and wanted to let you know that you are a clueless f___ing moron. You should stick to your own stupid blog and stop embarassing yourself anywhere else.
Anyone who thinks Kerry's words were meant to insult anyone but Bush is an idiot, or a republican, but then I repeat myself. Its just the same old Rovian-Republican Playbook. Change the subject. Distort the truth. I think we have all heard it before. Come back when you have something new.
bushbuster proves yet again that liberals are almost always too stupid to argue without name calling, cliches and talking points.
I think bushbuster has been spending way too much time on his liberal friend's blogs. As a result, he (or she) has left a scathing, penetrating, thought-provoking comment that exemplifies what liberals do best: when you can't comment intelligently on the issues, make fun of, and personally attack, others.
"Anyone who thinks Kerry's words were meant to insult anyone but Bush is an idiot, or a republican, but then I repeat myself." I guess I should be counted in the idiot crowd, then. No matter how many times I read Kerry's comments, I have yet to see any reference to Bush. If that was truly his point, don't you think he would have made that clear so that all us "idiot" Republicans would know what he meant? If not, perhaps Kerry is the one whose intelligence we should be questioning.
My favorite part of bushwhacker's comments, however, was the following: "You should stick to your own stupid blog and stop embarassing yourself anywhere else." Am I the only one who sees the irony here?
Ah, but are liberal friends are predictable, bless them.
While you can over-analyze a thing, and while I'm sure Kerry [meant] to hurt Bush and the Republicans, the statement still profoundly demonstrates a lack of understanding, admiration, respect, and knowledge-of the young men and women who are fighting in Iraq and elsewhere.
Kerry probably looked at his liberal crowd - saw no fatigues, no uniforms - and said exactly what he meant, and thought the crowd wanted to hear.
That's what this moron honestly believes.
You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get to be the junior seator from Massachusetts for your entire career.
I have this blog book-marked. I can't wait to come back on November 8th and listen to you all cry. You remember November 8th? That is the day there will be enough votes to impeach your hero. You can't screw the country and expect to win election.
Be afraid. Be very afraid. November 8th is coming.
Here's my take, though I know Bushbuster won't care...
If Kerry really did intend this to be a Bush administration-bashing joke, then fine, that's his right. However, his comments were at best poorly worded, leaving most people to read that Kerry was insulting the troops by insinuating that the they are uneducated and lazy. That much became obvious immediately and that is when the whole flap could have been put to rest by a heart-felt apology TO THE TROOPS.
However, Kerry has "apologized" only that his comments were misconstrued, not for his comments. He is not saying that he is sorry for insinuating that the military is comprised of uneducated lazy people. The only thing he is sorry about is the inconvenience this is causing him.
Sometimes, when a person speaks, they do mean what they say, exactly as they say it. I think that's the case here. Kerry simply thought he could get away with it unscathed.
Skyepuppy,
You also get to be the bane of your Party, a national joke, among other things. Senator Kerry is multifaceted.
Christina,
Anger and indignation works for some politicians, but I thought Kerry came off as seeming humorless and a bit out of control.
And I think you're right...
"Sometimes, when a person speaks, they do mean what they say..."
You remember November 8th? That is the day there will be enough votes to impeach your hero.
bushbuster, you won't hear us crying on the 8th. Even if the Dems take 1 or both houses, it will be more fun for us to switch from defensive mode to offensive mode.
Plus it would be great if the Dems waste any political capital they gain from this election to try and impeach Bush. It will keep them from getting any country-harming business done. They may be smart enough to realize that and abort any impeachment move. Then the lefty kooks like you will be the ones crying.
Bushbuster,
A friend that I respect says that if the Democrats take over Congress, it will be bad for the country, but good for the Republicans. I don't really see how you can discuss the two outcomes corporately, but I think he means that the Dems will behave in Congress in such a way that it will insure that their majority is short-lived - That they won't be able to help themselves. Once in power, they must "show their spots."
You must remember that they lost their majority status for a very good reason. They have little in common with the majority of Americans. How do you hide that when you control things?
Still, I think you may be counting your chicks a bit early.
AICS,
That's a great point about impeachment. And if they do try to impeach the president, the Dems will look bad and it will hurt them in '08. And, if they don't they will anger their base... and it will hurt them in '08.
Nice place you have here, Mr. Malott. If you don't mind, I have a couple observations.
If Kerry's comment is seen as offensive, I don't see how whipping up people in a frenzy over this, forcefully rubbing their noses in it, ampliphing it, ensuring that every American has heard it, can be viewed as anything other than shameless oportunism, divide and conquer politics at it's height, more evidence that former lines of conduct are no longer in play, stormed by the R's. And thinking back, I don't get how R's get a total pass for making an absolute mockery not of just Kerry, but of the entire purple heart deal, with those purple bandaids belittling and debasing everyone who earned one, as well as their fathers and grandfathers reaching back to all our conflicts - not one peep out the American Legion Commander on that one - it truly baffles me. I've said it before - you guys rock on your strategy and execution.
I don't understand how the Commander's comment ("... slandered his comrades ... It wasn't true then...) can go unchallenged. New information comes to the surface all the time. To a large extent, it's the nature of war. You open the box and really bad things are unleashed that are extemely difficult to control. We all know that from the evidence and, I'd argue, from looking in our own hearts. So here's a guy who called it like it was, and 30 years later serious people are still pretending like there's a fig leaf over that brutal truth, that some of the stuff that comes out of the box is very, very bad; deliberately and wilfully confusing statements like "we raped" with "we are rapists," and somehow the majority of the population can pretend like nothing bad happend when the box was opened in Vietnam, and that the guy who called like was is a nut. Incredible.
Malott, you're a Vietnam era guy, right? Maybe you served. You must at least know people who served. All goodness and light over there, right?
(excuse me for forgoing the spell checker and a tight proof read - didn't mean to drag down the neighborhood)
Paw,
I think "over-reaction" is in the eye of the beholder. We've watched while John Kerry called into question the honor of our soldiers with the "raiding homes at night and terrifying women and children etc" comment. We've watched while Democrats question our continued presence in Iraq, and wondered how many American lives were lost because of this "encouraging of our enemies." In a time of war we've watched our commander in chief called a liar and have heard plans for impeachment.
So are we Republicans really to be chided for our anger over this latest disgrace? And no, I don't believe the explanation that "finally" was published by the Kerry camp.
And Kerry's first purple heart? The swift-boat adds ask a compelling question. Why did Kerry receive the medal when his commanders [at the time of the event]refused him?
The Vietnam war was doomed to failure when Johnson was elected. I believe Barry Goldwater would have, as he said, turned North Vietnam into a swamp if he had to. That's how you fight a war.
We're making the same mistake with the War on Terror - aka the war against radical Islam - which of course started in 1978? or '79? when Jimmy Carter should have made an example out of Iran.
But at least Bush is fighting it - however imperfectly. Look around the world, PAW. Indonesia, Palestine, The Sudan, Russia, Europe - Radical Islam is coming and there is no place to hide. George Bush is not the enemy that is going to behead your sons and place your daughters in burqas.
It's late and I'm tired. I don't ramble as much in the AM.
Thanks for your thoughtful comments - and please come back.
But like other Democrats - among them a former president - Kerry loathes the military.
-malott
I have always believed that a person should be rightly judged by what they do instead of what they say. In my research of Congressional voting records where military and veterans affairs are concerned, I found that elected Republicans only talk the talk, they don’t walk the walk.
Another thing that I try to do is gather pertinent facts from the most qualified and relevant sources. For example, as regards the war in Iraq, it would seem more important to see what Iraq and Afghanistan veterans thought of their elected representatives, than it would be to determine the opinions of older veterans.
Likewise, if I want an assessment of the state of veteran’s affairs, the experiences of disabled veterans should be more relevant, and therefore more important, than those in better circumstances.
With these parameters in mind, the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (www.iavaaction.org) and the Disabled American Veterans found the voting record shows that the Democrats in the Senate consistently vote for the interests of veterans by a large margin over Republicans. You can see the DAV scorecard at (www.capwiz.com/dav/scorecard.xc). Overall, Democrats voted for veterans 88% of the time, while the GOP members only supported veterans half the time.
It's incredible that you people have no idea how idiotic it sounds to suggest that veterans who volunteered and wore the uniform in service to the USA, that those vets hate the military more than those who actively avoided service in the military.
Why is it you scream for apologies from Kerry for his gaffe, but demand none from the purple-heart band-aid crowd at the RNC who openly mocked vets? Why no apology demanded from Boehner for blaming the generals on the ground for the mess in Iraq? Why did you not demand an apology from Bush for openly joking about the lack of WMDs when 600 soldiers were already dead in Iraq, sent there because of those supposed WMDs?
You're all hypocrites, and so are the Republicans in office you support. You don't have to believe me. Go check their voting records.
I appreciate your research. But this country and the world face the most insidious evil in history.
I believe the Republicans will do more to protect the borders and fight Radical Islam than will the Dems.
The liberals in Europe are surrendering, and in just a few years their cultures will be gone. I don't want that to happen here.
anonymous,
Politicians almost always vote to the left of what comes out of their mouth. This is why it is a scary thing to vote for a Democrat. You vote in a right talking GOP and you have to keep on him like glue to pressure him into voting to the right. Often you succeed. A Dem on the other hand never seems to need any prodding or pressure to vote further left.
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