Saturday, January 24, 2009

Grammy on Academia

Sometimes the best comments are never read because they are in... Well, they're in comments. Grammy wrote an interesting comment on my previous post. And, since Grammy has no blog page of her own, (tsk...) I'll share it here:

"If things are to turn around it has to happen with the next generation, and the next generation looks clearly poised to keep swinging wildly toward amoral socialism. I have a wild notion! I think all parents in America should refuse to pay for their children's college. College is a breeding ground of non-accountability. Think about it. It is a fatally flawed system when the consumer (the student) does not pay for the product consumed (college education). This is white collar entitlement thinking. If people had to pay for their own education, the colleges would be smaller, less crazy, and students would come in with a no-nonsense expectation that they want their money's worth and they don't want to pay for a bunch of ridiculous non-academic social engineering experimentation. They'd also be older and more mature because they'd have to spend some time working to earn money to pay for their education. College professors might actually think of their students as customers instead of raw material to be plied into leftist drones."
--Grammy

Yep, I figure that would cut the national college student population in about half... And that would have to be good for America in itself. The closest thing to what Grammy describes is the small communty college, or the commuter college. No dormitories... College with lingering parental supervision.

Indiana University at Kokomo is like that, and there are actually some conservative profs teaching there. Those kids are all about getting their degree... And borrowing and spending as little money as possible in the process.

I would just add that I think we should introduce "The Fairness Doctrine" into the college classroom... Into the Schools of Journalism, Political Science, Psychology and Sociology...

For every Professor Keith Olbermann there would be a Professor Glen Beck. This would change everything because stupidity never competes well alongside common sense.

But as long as parents - and taxpayers - are willing to cough up the cash...

There is nothing wrong with your classroom. Do not attempt to adjust the curricula. We are controlling your education. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat, there is nothing wrong with your classroom. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to... The Outer Limits of Academic Credibility.

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3 comments:

SkyePuppy said...

Dennis Prager is with you and Grammy on this. He recommends against the Ivy League schools altogether, avoiding private schools (unless it's seriously, intentionally conservative), possibly attending state schools, and doing as much as possible at community colleges. The Leftier the professors are, the more they gravitate to the prestige schools.

Tsofah said...

Great comment from Grammy and great opining from you, Malott! About colleges: I have a family member who was Salutitarian at graduation; had a super high GPA, and could NOT get into any school except a state run university. He applied to Harvard, to Stanford, etc. They rejected him as not having high enough GPA!!! :-/

We tend to think of a college degree as being something as common as a high school degree. Well, except for the neuro-mentally disabled which the public schools kick out so they have to be home educated.

If we wish to survive as a nation, we are going to have to get out of this "other nations do better on testing" competition. It's not what our students know. It's how they are tested that makes the difference.

I may opine on this line of thinking on my blog later. Then again...it depends on other things I need to do and the time to do it in. :-}

Grammy said...

The whole issue is that we are getting farther and farther from the idea of having to work hard to earn what we want in life. College should be a really special acheivement for the highly determined and motivated - not just an expected stop-gap for 18 to 24 year olds while they go through a second adolescence. If parents didn't pay for their kids' college education, it would level the playing field for poor and rich kids. Both would have to work their way through college at menial jobs and would have the same opportunities when they graduated. There's probably no proposed entitlement that irks me more than the idea that college should be publically funded. Don't go there with me. Them's fightin' words.