Wednesday, November 14, 2007

Laura Ingraham versus Whoopi and Joy on the View

I love L.I.

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4 comments:

SkyePuppy said...

Great video! I love the way Laura doesn't fight them too much. When Whoopi "corrected" her about the Black Panthers' "Power to the People" not being elite but about Black disenfranchisement, Laura just accepts that and says now it's the Heartland that's disenfranchised. She's inclusive. I hope those lefties take a note about conservative inclusiveness.

11/14/2007 11:27 AM
paw said...

One of the things I'm trying to get a handle on is conservatives' usage of "elite". As far as I can tell, anyone who advances any idea that is not conservative dogma is at risk of being dismissed as an "elite", and the quality of being an "elite", however that is defined, is enough to have one's opinion thoroughly discounted. Now here I am trying to follow along again, and the idea of "elite" Black Panthers, in the 60's, just seems absurd. I'll admit that when I hear a conservative use the "elite" slur they have about 40 seconds to back up that usage with some justification, which never comes, and I devalue their argument directly proportional to how much venom they use when they spit out the word "elite", and I aim a little lower with my own rhetoric. So I'm biased against that term right off the bat. But I just plain don't get its use in this context, unless its only to make the believers happy to see Laura stick it to Whoopi and the gang.

And disenfranchised "heartland"? Huh? And that comment points to inclusion how exactly? An overblown sense of victimization, a total lack of understanding of how the makeup of the senate gives disproportional representation to "the heartland", and a purposeful manipulation of the definition of "disenfranchisement" (deprived of the rights of citizenship especially the right to vote) intended to whip up passions - that's all I see there.

1. "Elite" Black Panters;
2. "Disenfrancised" "heatland";
3. ergo inclusiveness?
I'd like to better understand this train of thought.

11/15/2007 12:02 AM
Tsofah said...

Laura held her own quite well, I think! :-)

One other thing I really need to mention is: Whoopi Goldberg is a LOT better than Rosie O'Donnell was! At least Laura got to say something and not be screamed at!

Kudo's to Whoopi for being more of an adult than Rosie!

11/15/2007 1:41 PM
SkyePuppy said...

PAW,

The "inclusiveness" was when Laura didn't (which I half expected she would) tell Whoopi that the Black Panthers' "power to the people" didn't count and only the heartland's did.

Laura Ingraham's previous book, Shut Up and Sing, defined "elite" as those people who think they know better than the rest of us and think they should be annointed to run things while normal Americans just stand around and nod worshipfully. Like Al Gore (my example, not hers). There most definitely are elites on both sides of the aisle.

I hope that helps.

11/15/2007 9:55 PM

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