Tuesday, March 13, 2007

The Ungrateful Foreign Left

I read a comment over at Skyepuppy's blog (always great reading) which I'll share here:

"I'd really like to ignore you Americans and leave you to your lunacy but unfortunately your quest for global full spectrum dominance is impinging upon everyone else's lives.

Couldn't you break the habit and stay within your own borders? Maybe buy the stuff you need rather than steal it?

You know, like civilised people...." confusedforeigner

The "Civilised people" this Aussie describes are scattered throughout history... also referred to as the "conquered people."

Foreign Lefties "rise and sleep under the blanket of the very freedom that we provide, and then question the manner in which we provide it"... to quote a certain general...

They whine and complain about the U.S.A. - all the while denying the undeniable... that they owe us for every bit of goodness - every bit of freedom in their lives. They also owe their unsophisticated predecessors and contemporaries who have fought alongside the Leaders of the Free World.

Tyrants don't take away the foreign Leftist's freedom - but not because they're "just so smart and clever..."

Tyrants are kept at bay because brave young men fall in battle.
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16 comments:

Malott said...

C'd F,

Thank you for your visit and comments.

I am so grateful for the boys from both our countries who fought against Germany and Japan. I am grateful to the men who fought against communism and who fight against radical Islam.

I don't know the unhappy circumstances in your life that have made you feel you are absolved of your debt to these brave men, but your freedom to live and speak freely is only possible because of their sacrifice.

A grateful heart is a prerequisite for inner peace and emotional health.

Thanks again for your heartfelt comments.

3/14/2007 6:25 AM
All_I_Can_Stands said...

CF,

You do admit we liberated quite a number of Jews from concentration camps, right? Or are you a denier? Somehow I would not be surprised.

Also, I don't think there was much dancing in the streets in poland when Hitler "liberated" them.

3/14/2007 2:51 PM
SkyePuppy said...

Don't forget the Soviets "liberated" Poland from the Nazis. No dancing then, either.

3/14/2007 4:50 PM
Anonymous said...

cf,

I hope you realize you are embarrassing yourself. For what it's worth, your vitriolic attitude toward others doesn't help convey a sense of rationality either. I was particulary fond of your admonishment of AICS and demand for an apology, followed immediately by a reference to Mr. Malott as "maggot." Now there's class for you.

3/14/2007 6:47 PM
Arthur_Vandelay said...

...torture

It's not "torture," CF. It's "Intelligent Asking."

3/15/2007 5:15 AM
All_I_Can_Stands said...

CF,

Thanks for giving your view of the holocaust. You admit it happened. I was waiting for a "but..." and that did not happen. I will withdraw my statement. I would say that in my experience the vast majority of people that say the things you do either deny it happened, minimize it or justify it.

No I do not deny that Israel defended itself after being attacked for the crime of being granted statehood.

No, it would have been Poland dancing in the streets if Hitler had "liberated" them. There was short lived dancing in the streets in Iraq (and the tumbling of a few statues of Saddam) in Iraq, though. Then the insurgents began their oppression of the people. But perhaps you think that occupying until the country is stable and the new government is established is more terrible than blowing up, kidnapping, beheading of innocent people.

I think somebody needs a refund on their moral compass.

3/15/2007 9:34 AM
All_I_Can_Stands said...

CF,

Hitler killed gypsies, arabs, trade unionists, homosexuals and others in great numbers too. Your ilk seems to not wish to recognize these facts.

By the way, who ever denied this? I admit I don't know the specifics on this, but it does not sound like some thing I or any of my "ilk" would deny.

3/15/2007 11:48 AM
All_I_Can_Stands said...

CF,

You are aptly named. You accuse me of propaganda, yet 90% of your points are unsupportable propaganda.

So, you do deny the naqba

No I support the historically supported version of what actually happened. The word of people willing to blow up innocent men, women and children will not convince me to change versions of history. Somehow you find all that acceptable.

As for Iraq:

If Sunni stopped killing Shia and Shia stopped killing Sunni and if the insurgency stopped planting bombs (roadside, car, etc.) and firing on the US troops - do you think we would still be firing any shots or dropping any bombs? Do you think we would not then be making plans to withdraw? Yet somehow you convert defending against the elements described above as "brutal military oppression" and "Your forces are fighting the Iraqi people, not a few insurgents."????

Basically your words can only occur under a formula that hates the US and Israel first, then thinks later and not the other way around.

Still not one peep about the real oppressors and killer tyrants around the world. There simply is no room to hate evil left in a liberals heart after they have filled it with hatred for the US and Israel.

3/15/2007 3:53 PM
All_I_Can_Stands said...

Oh really? What points are "unsupportable propaganda" ? It's easy to say but much harder to prove. And it ain't propaganda if it is based on the verifiable facts.

It's easy to say because you have not provided any support for all the tripe you have been writing. Since your claims fly in the face of what is generally accepted facts, it is up to you to provide some support for it. And something like "The Palestine Gazette" (name made up, but hopefully you get the point) would be an example of a source not worth my time. Neither would any tripe put out by the United Nations.

Your points and claims are so outrageous. They are stated as facts so obvious that one must have their head in a hole to not see them. Sorry, it is your points that are the propaganda. When I see some support worth using it may then be worth my time responding to your raves of lunacy.

Until then, you may want to go over to Housewife's blog as she will agree with everything you say. Through many attempts I have tried to extract some proof from her of this nonsense and have yet to see a shred from a credible source.

http://peace4palestine-housewife4palestine.blogspot.com/

Enjoy.

3/16/2007 12:21 PM
All_I_Can_Stands said...

This is laughable as you are more akin to David Duke than I am.

Pick a point and argue, or say nothing.

Ah the difference between us is that I believe in free speech. I will speak when and what I wish, thank you. You lefties are always trying to silence differing opinions.

As for picking a point, as I said I will not waste my time until you begin to support your points with trustworthy sources. Until then I will point them out for the tripe that they are.

3/19/2007 10:44 AM
All_I_Can_Stands said...

You are a racist.

Yet another name calling attack while all the while whining about ad hominem. You are a hypocrite of the highest order. You have absolutely nothing to support any claim that I am racist.

Clearly you don't. You are supporting a regime that kills on the basis of collective punishment for little more than thought crimes.

Are you confusing us with Russia, China, Iran, North Korea and Cuba?

LOL. Confirmation biased and proud of it. You'll disregard anything that doesn't confirm what you wish to believe.

A wingnut trait along with cognitive dissonance which you and Mallott display in breathtaking technicolour.

You have no basis to make this statement since you have never provided any support for what you spew out. In spite of my calls, you continue your chokingly hypocritical ad hominem instead of coughing up this so called proof that can only be read outside the US. I guess you only have leftist propaganda sources and do not want to tip your hand they are all you have.

3/21/2007 1:24 PM
All_I_Can_Stands said...

Clearly, you are not aware of what "ad hominem" is.

I am not ashamed to admit that when you first used the term I needed to look it up. Using the definition I found combined with the way you used it is how I am using it. But it is not worth arguing over. You do not like it when I use name-calling yet you use it. Hypocritical.

Similarly, I don't think you understand the specific definition of propaganda.

I have been quite educated on the nature and methods of propaganda.

Your views on arabs, palestinians and muslims are clearly racially motivated and exclusionist. That makes you a racist.

What a narrow way of thinking. Because those I criticize happen to be arabs, etc. does not make me racist. I target the actions of these groups and denounce them. If they were not engaged in their terrorist actions I would have no problem with their color, race or creed. That makes me NOT a racist.

It isn't rocket science.
Yet you get it wrong.

As I've said elsewhere pick a point that you wish me to back up.

Now you are close to being dishonest to those who are not following the comments between us on my blog. I gave you a specific point: your accusations of real torture by the US that are sanctioned and not being punished. Instead you duck behind arguments over gray areas such as waterboarding.

Are you arguing that you are not the most militarized countries on earth?

If I thought you were using the term in a non-loaded fasion I would readily agree. We have the strongest military. We spend the most on our military. We have the most soldiers and equipment staged around the world thanks to WWII, the old Soviet Union, Korea, our excursion in Gulf War I, our excursion in Kosovo and now Iraq and Afganistan.

More militarization does not mean we are wrong. It means we are more committed than any other country to fighting and restraining those elements that need restraint.

Or maybe that the Israeli military isn't brutally occupying Palestine?

I would be happy to discuss any credible evidence you have of this AFTER we finish exploring any credible evidence you have on the US torture, rape and massacre accusations.

What are you hiding from?
Sorry, you will have to own that question until you begin supporting your claims.

3/21/2007 9:32 PM
All_I_Can_Stands said...

You don't need me to provide evidence, it is all there in front of you.

Whether or not you think I need evidence, I have asked you for it ad nauseum. The entire last comment is vapor. There was not one thing I could put my hand on to respond to because it was simply a laundry list of unfounded accusations against me and my friends here.

That is your modus operandi. Whether it be me and my friends here or the US. Wave after wave of hate filled accusations with no backing or support. Lefty buzzwords like hegemony and imperialism do not count as support. In my line of work I often meet IT people who during meetings burp out one buzz word after another. When I then begin to dig and probe a bit I find there is nothing but vapor (and the buzz words). Your diatribes (description of your argumentative approach not ad hominem) remind me fully of those people. They never support anything they are saying either. You and they are emperors with no clothes.

So from now on until you provide some evidence my only comment can be:

Still waiting for you to support anything you have said.

(Reminder: We were looking for the proof on the torture, rape and massacre by the US. Referring to grandstanding US officials is not proof. Who did you mean anyway - Dick Durbin? LOL)

3/22/2007 11:14 PM
All_I_Can_Stands said...

I give up. You are either being obtuse or you are stupid.

The proof is in the body of evidence available to you that you choose to discount out of confirmation bias.

Just as I thought. You have nothing. This body of evidence takes a base of a few known and admitted facts and then uses it to manufacture a billowing cloud. Because of your "confirmation bias" you accepted each one as they were reported by the manufacturers. When I asked you for proof, it is likely you went to look for it and realized there was nothing but fluff. Or you did not look for it at all, wanting to continue living in your dreamworld of hatred.

3/25/2007 1:06 AM
All_I_Can_Stands said...

I'm not going to do your research for you

Reminder, this is not research for me. It is to support the statements you have made. I would think that you already had done the research BEFORE making your accusations. By making this statement it shows that you have not or you would not need to do the research again. You could send me links and quotes from the research you had already done.

So you have now exposed yourself as the fraud I expected you to be.

...

Still waiting for you to support anything you have said.

3/25/2007 11:22 PM
All_I_Can_Stands said...

Still waiting for you to support anything you have said.

3/26/2007 8:00 AM

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